networking folks: the minimum Ethernet frame size is 64 octets, right? does that include the FCS?
i did look at the 802.3 spec and it says this, which doesn't clarify much
@whitequark yes, 64 octets including src/dest MAC, 802.1q tag if present, ethertype/length, frame body, and FCS.
Preamble/SFD and interframe gap do not count towards the 64