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I just joined BookWyrm and am looking forward to learning how to use it. But I have a rather obvious getting started question: How do I manage having two "fediverse addresses"? (the one you're reading and my new Bookwyrm one)
If I post reviews using my BookWyrm account, I'm assuming no one will see my reviews as, not surprisingly, no one is following that account. Am I missing something obvious? For example, if I wanted to share a book review in BookWyrm, do I just share the link?
@scottjenson you can follow your BookWyrm account with this account, and then can boost it. Not ideal, but then interested people might follow the BookWyrm account too
@nyquildotorg Thanks. I (naively) thought I could "log into" BookWyrm with my mastodon account. or maybe I'm just not thinking this through properly....
I think this is where Fediverse needs to go, and I've given it some thought. A "fediverse id" (by default as today) that can be used as a point of auth to any fediverse-service.
It's something Bluesky solved very neatly and we should strive to copy it.
@troed @scottjenson @nyquildotorg
Rather than a “Fediverse ID” have an account/profile/ whatever that allows more then 1 ID to be supported, a concept tweetdeck et al introduced. You could manage, schedule and post to 1 or more IDs. You the person decides what the purpose of those IDs serve and take action accordingly.
@dahukanna @troed @nyquildotorg I'd like to understand how this would work. As I read what you said. This would allow me to post to either one or both of my accounts (mastodon and bookwyrm).
Where I'm confused is how would I make a "bookwyrm post"? My mastodon client has no idea. So would I got to Bookwyrm, make the post and 'target' my mastodon account?
Yeah I think we should separate these two quite different wants;
1) "I have a Fediverse account, why can't I log in to this new Fediverse service with it?"
and;
2) "How can people subscribe to my [various] Fediverse activity"
My suggestion to #1 is to let (some) Fediverse services also be authentication endpoints for others. That is, the Bookwyrm instance you sign up at will authenticate through social.coop just like we can log in to various services on the Internet with our Google and Facebook accounts. This is known technology, "just" needs implementation and support. At the same time this would allow for pure "id services" so that I could be person@somewhere no matter which underlying instance I'm actually using.
#2 could probably be solved by some aggregation service, but I haven't thought a lot about it. While we talk about Fediverse/ActivityPub as "one protocol" we also need to realize that many services use their own extensions on top of it.
@scottjenson I’ve been chewing on this too, as I try to move ~2000 book notes to… something other than a google sheet, heh
I’m hacking on regular forum software, that solves my conversation focus with reply threading, branching & digressions, to figure out if it could do orchestration work as a POSSE approach: https://indieweb.org/POSSE.
I post on the modified forum software & it logs in to the target specified server(s), posts, boosts & collects any comments, likes, etc with the relevant sequencing etc.
Also allows me to take time to create & review posts before publishing, plus scheduling.
@dahukanna nice! That’s the approach I’ve been leaning towards with my stuff, but the “hmmm, should I just build… right on some distrobuted/federated platform?” Is always tempting
@eaton I want to manage any conversation content types but post type is tied to specific server types e.g. create bookwyrm-based for posting book reviews, mastodon for posting micro-blogs, Lenny for rated posts. I’d like to create, edit, publish and update posts of any type, as well as gather the aggregate replies formatted to my personal preferences.
@scottjenson
AS-IS scenario: To create a bookwyrm “templates” post including metadata like rating, pages, language, publisher, etc. you have to create it on Bookwyrm server as it is the only one that creates posts with that “template”.
Then you & anyone else on a connected Fediverse server could boost & comment on your bookwyrm “templated” post.
My comment was a TO-BE scenario future proposal - https://mastodon.social/@dahukanna/113758583248089453. Create one post with a template & publish wherever.
@troed @scottjenson @nyquildotorg I've got mixed feelings. I see the appeal, and if it came about I'd want controls so your followers can choose what services to subscribe to. There are some people I'd follow anywhere on the Internet, and some people I'd rather just see their cat pictures.
Come to think of it, Scott is probably the perfect person to weigh in on how to design something like that 
@fogoplayer @troed @nyquildotorg
I'd like to make sure we frame the problem carefully. There appear to be two separate "things" to discuss:
1. Logging into a new federated service with a single ID-or Dawns tweetdeck thing
2. Using that service and how your followers see it.
ATM, I see bookwrym as a 'mime-type extension' to the fediverse. I today I can post text, photos, videos, and links. I'd also like to post books. It is who "I am" and is part of the entire package. Don't like? Don't follow
@fogoplayer @troed @nyquildotorg
HOWEVER, if you want to have an "Instagram style account" will all of your photos and you post like mad. Maybe having a seperate account is a good idea. This is in the spirit of the fediverse. You do you.
@fogoplayer @troed @nyquildotorg But if you don't like what I do (Cory doctorow for example is famous for the long threads) there *isn't* a switch to 'not see long threads'! You just don't follow Cory! I feel the same should be true for people that post book reviews from their main account.