Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fschaap" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fschaap</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.coop/@netopwibby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>netopwibby</span></a></span> yeah, but why is it in the drawer (besides <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirefoxOS</span></a> being let to die prematurely)...</p><p>We may be aware of Firefox OS' existance in the past but it was never even tried to be sold anywhere to any effect.</p><ul><li>And believe me, both <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> and I tried to get our hands on <em>any device</em> that came with it and I've never heard of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ZTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ZTE</span></a> Open C before, much less any device being sold in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a> which is absolutely flabberghasting to me given that in the late 2000s and early 2010s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mozilla</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a> was the dominant <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Browser</span></a> in Germany and thus had the best chance to leverage that customer base with good integrations like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MozillaPocket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MozillaPocket</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxPocket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirefoxPocket</span></a>. </li></ul><p>I still love <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fennec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fennec</span></a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxMobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirefoxMobile</span></a> but I'm still mad at <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.cc/@Mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mozilla</span></a></span> for not even trying to sell me a device, cuz I was at the time literally shouting: <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney</span></a>!"</em> and searched the (back then 4) MNOs' and their (half a dozen) MVNOs' stores (both retail and online) and never came across a Firefox OS device.</p><ul><li>Same with (online) electronics retailers: <em>NONE</em> of them even had a single listing when I looked for those.</li></ul><p>Which reminds me of the (coined by me term) <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedBlueIndex" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RedBlueIndex</span></a>"</em> [named after the parent company that owns both <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Saturn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Saturn</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MediaMarkt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MediaMarkt</span></a>, the two biggest, spechalized electronics retailers]:</p><ul><li>If you can't find a product on shelf at Saturn/MediaMarkt, it doesn't exist in the minds and conciousness of the average <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consumers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>consumers</span></a>!</li></ul>